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Troubles/Questions Regarding Processing Using Diffusion Tookit.

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4:35 pm
July 19, 2010


dleve123

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Post edited 4:42 pm – July 19, 2010 by dleve123


To whomever can help:

 

I am currently in the process of processing and visualizing some DTI (or possibly HARDI) data.  This data has already been processed once through AFNI's DTI processing stream, and the data itself appears to be high quality.  However, I wasn't very happy with AFNI's tractography software and TrackVis seems to be more than adequate, albeit the following issues.

 

Firstly, it is not clear whether the data should be processed as HARDI or DTI data.  When DT (Diffusion Toolkit) accesses the raw data files, the description field reads hardi, but when part of the data is processed as both HARDI and then as DTI data, the DTI looks significantly better (images later in post)…..Image 1

As you can see from the image above, each full acquisition of data is broken up into 4 scans.  Scans 2,3,4 (series 7,8,9) each use 14 gradients and scan 1 (series 6) uses 13 gradients + 1 b0 gradient.  This makes a total of 56 gradients used (including 1 b0 gradient….so 55 oblique gradients).  If each scan has 1008 raw data files, then there are 72 axial slices per gradient, as well as 72 b0 slices.  After much work, I was able to process and visualize the first scan (the scan that includes the b0 volumes or slices) as both HARDI and DTI data….the HARDI processing stream took 12 minutes while the DTI processing stream took 2.  Here is what both the output .trk files look like. HARDIDTI

When I try to process the other scans, I receive cannot read .nii errors (at the _recon stage), which appear to be issues with the gradient file.

I guess my questions are:  Should this data be processed as DTI data (that is my inclination)?  How do I process the other 3 scans without the bO volumes and concatenate them (presumably with track_merge)?  Any other suggestions not explicitly asked for will be more than welcomed.

 

Thanks,

Daniel

5:33 pm
July 19, 2010


Ruopeng

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HI Daniel,

It looks like the HARDI reconstruction simply failed, which is not a surprise, because the number of direction in your first series is only 13. The sample is just too small for spherical harmonic fitting, which is used for HARDI reconstruction. I would suggest at least 60 directions for HARDI acquisition.

Your scans 2, 3, 4 don't have b0 image, which could be the reason for "cannot read .nii error" becaus the program expects a bigger .nii file (with b0 volume included).

Now, to combine all your scans into one reconstruction, you will need a little manual work. Diffusion Toolkit (DTK)'s DICOM to nifti conversion program won't do the job automatically. What you will need to do is convert each serise to a 4D nfiti volume, and then concatenate the 4 4D volumes into one, with 56 time points (1 b0, 55 diffusion weighted). This big 4D volume can be fed into DTK for reconstruction. Of course you also need to create a gradient table including all the 55 directions.

Best,

Ruopeng